Worst nat 5

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  1. aznzeon

    aznzeon Level 9

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    So i just want to know everyone's opinion on who the worst nat 5 is and why. I know some ppl will say that all nat 5 are good in their own way, which i believe is true. I just want to know in your opinion, just out of curiosity.
     
  2. BrFrPlayer

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    All nat 5s are usable with max level and good runes just because of their high raw stats.

    However, there are nat 5s which are extremely situational like Juno, hard to support like Leo or have mismatch between their stats and skills or between their skill effects - many examples including Wind Pioneer and Monkey Kings. These are not strictly garbage but they are replacable with better performing nat 4s.
     
  3. slopixi

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    When I read title I remembered posts posts about Velajuel as worst of them all etc. Few months later everybody wants to have him. Every 5 star has potential. Some needs some rework. So if it happens you have nat 5 that is considered as worst atm. DONT event think about foddering him.
     
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    worst nat 5? I dont like the light and dark dragons,
     
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  5. wolf_zly

    wolf_zly Level 16

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    Dragons after boost are fine in my eyes.

    Worst nat 5* is light chimera. This guy has terrible mismatch between his skills and stats.
    1st skill - basic attack (very low attack stat)
    2nd skill - benefits from attack and speed (slowest chimera with very low attack stat)
    3rd skill - benefits from high hp and accuracy (only 10k hp at max level and no bonus to accuracy)

    If you go full offense, the 3rd skill is crap and his attack stat is low anyway. Going full hp his first two skills wont do anything and you can still have a bad luck of skill trying to stun ignoring the benefit of hp build. I know people will say that YDCB uses him but I think its only due to the fact that is super rare 5*.

    I have this guy for over 3 months and he is still runeless 5*!!!
     
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    jk umm prbly wind pioneer. Apparently, his 2nd ability can't even crit and his awaken bonus is crit rate.. like what?
    His 3rd ability only shows it's true potential when it kills a mon but his base attack is only 769 and building him with high critdmg+critrate would make his unable-to-crit 2nd ability deal no dmg.. wompwompwomp
    His 1st ability is a 15% chance to sleep.. succubus has 50%.. whaaaa?

    I tried to defend this guy a while ago on reddit and got destroyed and now I know too much about how bad he is... If they do fix his 2nd ability so that it could crit, I'd completely change my tune on him but until then..
     
  7. Blinkie

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    Wind Valk, hands down worst, just dps (uncontrolled dps) zero utility.
     
  8. akekid

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    so if im thinking about fusing a wind valk, i shouldn't right? should i fuse a water phoenix instead? i already have most of material for ifrit minus the dark yeti.
     
  9. slopixi

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    @Blinkie I have to disagre with you, I do know that Katarina is not best monster but worst 5* ? No way IMO. 3 × 30k ignore defens shots and any think non fire will die. Eventualy.
     
  10. Valorian

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    I feel like Katarina is awesome in Arena Offense. My Katarina's second skill with a defense debuff puts out almost 25K and her random third skill does 20k to 3 random targets. Still seems pretty powerful IMO.
     
  11. Blinkie

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    Let me rephrase it, Wind valk is hands down worst 5* nat for guardian 2*->. Only usefull for AO, and even for that she needs the shielder, and even then her third can hit fires or one guy 3 times. I agree she can be usefull for conquer tier as she will most likely one shot a bunch of monsters, but then again there are also many other units that can be used for pure dps.

    And if you compare the two current fusion nat5*s I'd go with phoenix 100%.
     
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    I feel like @bigjohn42255 would have something to say about this... I think he swears by his Valk in AO.
     
  13. bigjohn42255

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    Thanks. I do not agree that katarina is wort nat 5*. You think it is becasue u dont know how to use it or have the gear to make her OP. Burst dps , with better survival compared to a 4 star is cruical in G2 G3. just using a kahill/jean for dps or bombs.. like YCDB is a gamble in long term..

    If u use kata to fight water nix, nix dies, if u use water nix to hit kat.. Furthermore, water nix is more squishy.. just like fire nix... and so on.
    besides... if u are in g2g3.. u wont rely on the same team...for ao and ad.. i never use kata in AD and in PVE..
    Dont forget, the second skill is very powerful ... with defense debuff.. it can hit 3.5K
    If u kno9w how to use it, u dont even need chole ..
     
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  14. Blinkie

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    Yeah I have kata, I have runes for her(though I took them off as she sits on the bench), I fight usually G2-G3 if not busy irl. Still it doesn't change the fact that it's only dps, only for selected floors of toa and ao. Pretty much every other nat5* has more utility than Kata. I'm not saying Kata is bad (none of the nat5*s are bad, I could even say that about nat4*s), but out of nat5s I find her least usefull and least versatile.
     
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    I believe that Shan is no where near the worse natural 5* monster. In my opinion its either Helena (Fire unicorn) or Pungbeak (wind Pioneer) thoose are the ones that need a buff. but that's your opinion. the Aoe stun is killer and other than that its a Chimera. Chimera is not the worst by lmao.
     
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