New Units Info [Krea/Kurt/Lily Matah]

Discussion in 'Japanese Version' started by Steverion, Dec 25, 2014.

  1. ksham

    ksham Level 15

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    I feel the exact opposite. That's not even a powercreep. It's not that good offensively because 200% BB mod alone is pretty crap without any spark dmg or crit dmg boosts. Defensively, it has all elemental mitigation and 50% BB Ares, but that's not a powercreep because no current content makes good use of it. And if this is forecasting on future content, then it still sucks. Also, I don't put "defense" and "powercreep" in the same sentence.

    If we look back on units that defined meta (aka powercreep), this unit would definitely not classify based on that LS alone.

    The 25 SP for +50% ALL stats is pretty crazy though.
     
  2. Talukita

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    It depends, if Tilith trial is anything there is spark damage resistance as well (crit is lol), while BB mod is sure to deal more damage.

    Basically Alim slaps the safest options as lead for him. All stats and all miti are no brainer, and BB mod/fill rate are like extra.

    Rosa has 15% FWET miti but can't attack, Eleanor has 15% FWET miti but held back by being a much weaker miti than others. Meanwhile Regil has 60% all + 15% miti all.

    Other SPs are pretty much all around too, EWD null, null ailment, heal, high stats and so forth.

    And no, powercreep = stronger design all around lol, it doesn't necessary to be around offense to be called power creep.

    Maybe I'm just salty that it magically lands on a light male protag guy again :chicken:

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  3. Nice Guy :-)

    Nice Guy :-) Level 9

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    Who made that meme you or Aldo?
    Or are you aldo?
     
  4. ksham

    ksham Level 15

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    Well, that'a bit of an unfair comparison. Rozalia can't attack but you don't need her to in the new trial formats and her BC Fill LS is more useful than BB Ares. And unless Light is a mitigator, he's not competing with Eleanor.

    Also, as for SPs, you can't really take the ideal path because it costs too much. I have no issues with you calling him a powercreep and I respect your opinion. I personally find him meh considering Afla exists and why tank everything when there are better ways to kill things. But this is going off LS only. I mean, Janice's LS was solid at first glance until her BB/SBB/UBB were shit-tier.

    But one highlight of the batch is definitely Fire unit. At long last, we have a Fire DE mitigator!
     
  5. Talukita

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    Not all is about Strategy Zone though. There are many times I need a Roza-esque lead but can't use her because she makes the fight last like twice longer. There are many places that Regil can be used like Kulyuk GGC and Endless 300 (which definitely makes me way easier especially for non-999). And nope, doesn't need to be miti to be better than Eleanor considering how many better options for miti we have, and one of them is his fire batch mate.

    Different play style, some like to nuke, I like to take it slowly. That and I bring Kyle in all contents so not like I can rush damage anyway.

    Also Janice is shit because Colo unit, but from the look of Regil SP and set he is a content unit for sure.
     
  6. Kuttrax

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    dafuq? GitHub is down?!

    fts, stayed up for nothing. @Talukita , if you can pls just edit the info in...
     
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  7. ksham

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    That's my point though. Regil can be used via Kulyuk GGC but he's not an ideal lead for it either. Rozalia, despite not being able to attack, works better because she promotes your other units to do more dmg when BC is low due to the superior LS. Unless Regil has some more BC management buffs with low cost, it's the same (or possibly worse) than Holia lead vs Kulyuk GGC.
     
  8. EndlessEnigma

    EndlessEnigma Level 37

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    Did two pulls, got meh and notice me senpai.
     
  9. Talukita

    Talukita Moderator

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    Since github refuse to load, here is the info from looking at jp ss

    Regil:
    BB: AoE + ATK buff + BB mod buff?
    SBB: AoE (HP scaled) + BB mod buff + spark buff + HP -> ATK + spark vul (pretty much all offense buff)
    UBB: AoE (HP scaled) + large HP buff + BB mod buff + spark buff + 75% miti 3 turns (bye Ark whatever)

    Valen
    BB: AoE + fill BC + DEF + miti
    SBB: AoE + fill BC + DEF + guard miti + BC fill when guard + miti
    UBB: AoE + HoT + BB hit + guard miti + miti
     
  10. FFGH

    FFGH Level 36

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    Its time to pull for dupes!

    Yay Azami!
    Yay Janice!
    Yay Owen?
    Yay Mariella!
    Yay Kalon!
    Yay Dark person?
     
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  11. Valkyrie

    Valkyrie Level 29

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    4 pulls all dupes :meh:
     
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  12. Belias

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    Got new light A. Is he any good?
     
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  13. Talukita

    Talukita Moderator

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    Among best leads with crazy stats, almost full offense buff sets, better than Ark UBB etc etc

    So yeah, he is closed to be the new Ark (aka Gary stu)
     
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  14. Kuttrax

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    initial info is up without the % values...
    are those BC cost for real?!
     
  15. Neins

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    I don't think that's the BC cost, more like its DC. The number of the BC cost and the number of hits are the same tho.
     
  16. Kuttrax

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    Yeah realized that afterwards lol. But I was like, wtf at first
     
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    Pulled Regil on the first try.
     
  19. chuuburg

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    May I ask how does these LS work?
    considerably boosts ABP and CBP gain

    Do i have to use it as both leaders in colo or only one?
     
  20. Andy Oey

    Andy Oey Level 31

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    If u use the lead, you will get the additional abp/cbp
     

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