Konami finally did it

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  1. Captain paul

    Captain paul Level 22

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    After almost three years of this game, konami has finally made an invincible form.
    The new chewie and the new Ben. Put those together in a form and no one can beat you.
    I think with queen/bail/Rey, and a 1* card. the new ben would get upwards of 24,00 attack and 25,000 def (correct me I i am wrong)
    I think they did have the purple summer, that was also invincible.
    But the gm block could be beaten by blizzards, my pg 13 blizzards beat up gm blocks, but crumbled against new chewie.
     
  2. LLAL

    LLAL Level 35

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    I hope you're wrong...
     
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  3. EllBringa

    EllBringa Level 44

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    Prolly wrong based on the demo battle.
    Old Vader wouldnt last that long against 24k / 25k imo.
     
  4. THEROBIN

    THEROBIN Level 23

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    The card in the demo would be max level. It is easy enough to put a unenhanced base or unenhanced emax for low cap or use shaak with call to the light for maximum effect. Not sure what the exact numbers are, but it can break 22k/23k.
     
  5. Plageus

    Plageus Level 18

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    Bens stats (16/31 awakened):
    14505/16105
    Total atk/def = 30610

    A 1* unenhanced/unevod card will likely have around 600ish total stats. So Ben is getting boosted on a 30000 difference which 25% of is 7500.

    Attack:
    14505 x .31 (queen, bail, rey) = 4496
    14505 + 4496 + 7500 = 26501

    Defense:
    16105 x .31 = 4992
    16105 + 4992 + 7500 = 28597

    New Ben is a fucking beast.
     
  6. Latexfrog

    Latexfrog Level 14

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    Yes he is that strong. When we got our first SK50 Ben we put a 1* in the back and a healer behind him. He beat 3 SK40 Old Sids in front of 3 Awakened Bobas boosted by SCP
     
  7. MaelstormSteel

    MaelstormSteel Level 42

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    Just a note for you all the ben in demo is nonawoken so no sk 50 or over 1400 stats in demo
     
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  8. Latexfrog

    Latexfrog Level 14

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    Excluding the 5% variance, the math of damage is:

    (ATT - DEF) × .1= Damage dealt.

    This means an attack of 2,281 on an unleveled 1* implies an ATT of ~22,800. That being said...
     
  9. Latexfrog

    Latexfrog Level 14

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  10. ShinjiTakeyama

    ShinjiTakeyama Level 30

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    And yet, people are valuing him lower than just a dark side sniper lol.
    It's definitely on the list of things my legion mate is going for since he was running GM previously.
     
  11. Latexfrog

    Latexfrog Level 14

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    People are starting to realize the sniper as crap, and that Ben is OP as shit.
     
  12. Tenacious D

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    Sounds game breaking
     
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  13. ShinjiTakeyama

    ShinjiTakeyama Level 30

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    Well...I hope they realize it faster, people are acting like shit has ebola in trades. XD

    Agreed Tenacious...people still think it's super susceptible to pierce (but I've yet to come across a blizz or jugg form that covers either corner) and snipers. But the snipers would have to hit that 1* out of everything.
     
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  14. Captain paul

    Captain paul Level 22

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    As I said, one awakened new chewie ruined my form, imagine 4 of him with a current super gm deck.......
     
  15. Latexfrog

    Latexfrog Level 14

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    An idea everyone gets stuck on is you really don't need an 1* to make him over powered. If you get mid row of chewys with Queen/HOK/and a 2* unleveled bail boosting he will still be much stronger than you'd ever need. Against a Jugg or Blizz just run a 2nd template with a safe 1*
     
  16. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D Level 16

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    Sounds like I should start building maul mr and hoping FO flames (awakened with hux) are enough pierce damage to take out the 1* before they're toast.
     
  17. CozmoSW

    CozmoSW Level 17

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    Once the 1* or 2* card is picked off, though, he loses that major boost...and his boost is then based on the weakest remaining card? Or does the skill work differently? So running snipers and proximity alarm would help I think
     
  18. Latexfrog

    Latexfrog Level 14

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    Ben would kill the flames through their boost before they could kill an unleveled 2* bail
     
  19. Latexfrog

    Latexfrog Level 14

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    Yes, he then picks the next weakest card, checks its proximity, then boosts if out of range.
     
  20. Latexfrog

    Latexfrog Level 14

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    Training form is 26636, it consists of SK49 Ben, Barriss Healer and 1*.
     

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