#HuttGuide 9/26: Just Honest Values

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  1. ChrisTheHutt

    ChrisTheHutt Level 26

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    A guide that reflects the actual market by using more sources. More knowledge, more accuracy, more power. #HuttGuide!

    http://tinyurl.com/huttguidesuperlegitnotfake (If you want an easily sortable list / alphabetical list)

    Updated: 9/26/17

    5* Card (Value) - Info

    Lol @ Thinking Scarif Defense is 20-25 Tier
    Top Supports 18 - Ceiling. Each varies. Ask for MP
    FO Stormtrooper 17 - Best prep skill. Strong
    BB8 TFP 14 - Has potential to be great

    Top Cards in Top Forms Tier
    Bail Organa 10 - GR booster + healer
    Fifth Brother 10 - Pierce with counter wow
    K2SO 10 - Baze forms need more help
    Ithano 9 - Sniper that boosts around
    Krennic AWR 9 - DS booster + crazy attack
    Maz PAL 8 - Column booster
    Garazeb 7 - Traditional high D for Rebel
    Gregor 7 - Improved AHR Clone
    Obi BM 7 - LOTO on steroids
    Queen 7 - New boosters emerging
    Ani FK 6 - High start + non null BR is nice
    Baze Malbus 6 - So many hitting the market
    Finn BoT 6 - TG for all LS cards
    FO TFP 6 - FO TFP pilot among others
    Kallus 6 - Empire mid semi circle
    Phasma FTO 6 - Strong booster for DS
    Poe 6 - Black One pilot among others

    You Can Win PG14 With A Form Built Here Tier
    BB8 5 - Sorry to all you BB8 hoarders
    Flametrooper 5 - Huge defense FO short
    Lando CM 5 - Improved and AWK now
    QGJ FD 5 - Standard strong LS short
    Sabine S5 5 - More Rebel EVA
    SCP 5 - New boosters emerging
    Chirrut Imwe 4 - Big EVA Rebel
    Death Trooper 4 - Can super boost his pierce
    Inquisitor 4 - Gives Empire extra attack
    Mother Talzin 4 - Hugely underrated card
    Shaak Ti TG 4 - The important GR form card
    Trench 4 - Seps booster + laser
    C2B5 3 - Vehicle killer. Copilot
    Cad Bane SK 3 - Reflects all type of shit
    Chewy AHR 3 - Great value card now
    Hera 3 - Ghost pilot among others
    Hux CT 3 - Great value card now
    IG88 3 - Improved and AWK now
    Krennic 3 - The rise of the Empire
    Kylo 3 - Must have but most have now
    Luke JiT 3 - Works with new QGJ. Rebel too
    Pre Vizsla 3 - Possibly useful now with AWK
    Rey 3 - Lots of forms don't have her now
    Stormtrooper 3 - Annoying as hell to face
    Vader SoF 3 - The DS version of karma

    We're Getting To Shit Quickly Tier
    Ahsoka 2 - Eva Jedi female
    Ahsoka WP 2 - Can be mid. Pilot
    Asajj Ventress 2 - Great value card now
    C3PO 2 - Underrated card now somehow
    Finn 2 - Works for LS and DS decks
    GG AoK 2 - Old Hux for Separatists
    JJB GS 2 - Being phased out
    Jyn Erso 2 - Rebel combat booster
    Kanan Jarrus 2 - Rebel concentrated fire. Copilot
    Kylo DP 2 - Increased demand with FO
    Leia General 2 - Must have card. Kills FO/Empire
    Mace Old 2 - AWK finally! Solid attack
    Obi JM 2 - Procs enough to make BR useful
    Rey SB 2 - Slight uptick with new Finn
    Sabine Wren 2 - Rebel EVA stun. Copilot
    Seventh Sister 2 - Gives Empire extra attack
    Shadow Trooper 2 - Average DS sniper
    Tarkin RP 2 - Empire concentrated fire
    Tekka 2 - Helps Resistance/Jedi
    Vader DO 2 - Reduce LS attack and acc
    Yoda GM 2 - 2015 wants their top card back
    Ani JG 1 - Gregor's friend
    Ben JIH 1 - Yoda GM on steroids. Hurt by Hux
    Cad Bane 1 - Annoying timeouts
    CC Rex P2 1 - AWK with Clone buddies
    Darth Bane 1 - Auto damage for DS
    Han HS 1 - Good against every DS form
    Hux 1 - Needed for FO 10% boost
    Jango AWP 1 - Can change a whole match
    Leia ATS 1 - Rebel boost and auto damage
    Leia Princess 1 - Increased use with Rebels now
    Luke MOD 1 - People stocking up for AWK
    Maul ROTS 1 - Old AWK cards have better stats
    Maz 1 - Jugg needs you. Also boost top LS
    Mon Mothma 1 - Good Rebel support card
    Plo 1 - Must have for any top Law player
    QGJ TFD 1 - Old AWK cards have better stats
    Quinlan Vos 1 - Only like him if you never used him
    Savage Opress 1 - Front null DS people like him
    Sid Old 1 - AWK finally! Huge defense boost
    Thrawn 1 - New defense reduction
    Vader CC 1 - Just not enough defense/proc
    Vader HMB 1 - AWK pierce now!
    Vader Tie 1 - Must have for any top Law player
    Vader TPC 1 - Old AWK cards have better stats
    Veers 1 - Many using his skill now
    Wedge 1 - 1st AWK Pilot
    Wicket 1 - The Walmart Chirrut
    Yoda AOL 1 - AWK pierce now!

    When You're a MFing Moron, Not a MFing Regulator Tier
    Aayla 0.5 - Helps GR a little. Otherwise useless
    Ackbar 0.5 - Becoming more useful with new cards
    Ackbar IAT 0.5 - New types added but still worthless
    Ani DW 0.5 - New proc boost helps barely
    Ani Pad 0.5 - Good for support and that's it
    Ani ROD 0.5 - Nobody likes little boys anymore
    Ani TCO 0.5 - Awakened 3 months too late
    Ani TFO 0.5 - AWK now. Still a support card
    Aurra HG 0.5 - If only she could be awakened!
    Aurra Old 0.5 - Finally awakened! High ACC
    Barriss FJ 0.5 - This card just isn't good enough
    Ben Kenobi 0.5 - AWK now because sure why not
    Black Krr 0.5 - Stuns 2 enemies. Has multiple types
    Boba DFH 0.5 - Was the old cheat card
    Boba LOY 0.5 - EVA bounty hunter helper
    Boba Old 0.5 - Boosted mids = best bang for buck
    Boba TRH 0.5 - Expect to see more AWK of these
    Bossk 0.5 - Wish I could give this card away
    Bossk LH 0.5 - Just an anti AHR card
    Cassian Andor 0.5 - Another Rebel piece
    CC Appo 0.5 - Boost your Jugg or throw away
    CC Cody DS 0.5 - Somehow worse than LS Cody
    CC Cody LS 0.5 - Free win if you face it
    CC Rex Old 0.5 - Big Acc boost for Clones
    CC Thire 0.5 - Exar says he has no more Thire
    Chair Palp 0.5 - Not all AWK are good
    Chewy HOK 0.5 - Good boost to Chewy attack
    Chewy Old 0.5 - Boosted mids = best bang for buck
    Chewy WW 0.5 - The worst Chewy hands down
    Dengar 0.5 - Looks cool but that's about it
    Dooku DC 0.5 - Solid defense + skill boost
    Dooku DL 0.5 - Anti vehicles + use in front of boosters
    Dooku EOR 0.5 - AWK has given him some life!
    Dooku Old 0.5 - Still a DS tank. Cheap but great
    Dooku SL 0.5 - Some using with Savage
    Droideka 0.5 - Too many M/L cards to be useful
    ERG 0.5 - Not worth nulling him
    GG EC 0.5 - Nute fodder! Worst GG
    GG LS 0.5 - Best GG is AWK now
    GG Old 0.5 - Trident form!
    GG TAE 0.5 - Counterattack is cool
    Han Old 0.5 - Boosted mids = best bang for buck
    Han QD 0.5 - Not sure why this card even exists
    Han SFH 0.5 - Good eva but terrible acc
    Jabba CL 0.5 - Pray for Cad SK or Jango AWP
    Jabba Old 0.5 - Jabba OP. Can get to over 37k attack
    Jango Old 0.5 - Boosted mids = best bang for buck
    Jango TOW 0.5 - Good skill but AWK cards beat him
    JJB Old 0.5 - Not the best eva card anymore
    Kalani 0.5 - Trident form!
    Ki Adi Mundi 0.5 - Not sure where/how he fits currently
    Kit Fisto 0.5 - Increased his skill but still sucks
    Kylo SB 0.5 - Not in any top end decks
    Lando Old 0.5 - So many better options
    Leia SC 0.5 - Outdated card. Don't waste your time
    Leia Sniper 0.5 - People stocking up for AWK
    Luke HTE 0.5 - Not a good card even with new Rebels
    Luke JK 0.5 - JK must stand for JK don't use me
    Luke Old 0.5 - Average AWK card. Better ones
    Luminara 0.5 - Decent starter deck card for LS
    Mace AJB 0.5 - Some using stats for new QGJ
    Mace MOV 0.5 - MOV forever OP
    Magna 0.5 - AWK now because sure why not
    Maul MR 0.5 - Pair with new Savage card
    Maul Old 0.5 - Best pilot in the game. Scim OP
    Maul Sin 0.5 - AWK but meh. Good value though
    Nines 0.5 - FO on a budget
    Nute 0.5 - Trident form!
    Obi LOTO 0.5 - AWK now. Decent for PG12ish
    Obi Pad 0.5 - AWK now but still bad
    Obi RG 0.5 - Vehicles give me more points in PG
    Obi VC 0.5 - AWK now. Good support card
    Padme FT 0.5 - Anti vehicle
    Padme RS 0.5 - AWK now because sure why not
    Padme SAW 0.5 - Support card
    Phasma 0.5 - Better DS cards to null now
    Pong 0.5 - Can you actually use him now?
    QGJ Old 0.5 - Average AWK card. Better ones
    R2D2 0.5 - Not a bad DR card if you're a beginner
    Rako 0.5 - More bounty hunters = more use?
    Rancor 0.5 - My favorite waste of binder space
    Saw Gerrera 0.5 - Weird little Rebel boost
    Selbulba 0.5 - Just wait til awakened
    Senator Palp 0.5 - Boost your Jugg and Chew
    Shaak Ti 0.5 - Make sure you heal her if you use her
    Sid RA 0.5 - Fun card to use til you can afford SCP
    Sid SD 0.5 - Improved! But Mattv and this card suck
    Tarkin Old 0.5 - This is how you stop eva
    Tarkin TM 0.5 - Turbolaser is fun. Finn survives
    Vader DU 0.5 - Used to be good before AWK cards
    Vader GT 0.5 - Galactic terror is an ironic name
    Vader MOE 0.5 - This card made Houdini retire
    Vader Old 0.5 - Basic DS awakened card
    Yoda DoE 0.5 - Huge damage reduction to DS
    Yoda EOD 0.5 - Awakened defense is nice + 99 eva
    Yoda RG 0.5 - Too many better options, even Yodas
    Yoda Saber 0.5 - Basic LS awakened card
    Zam 0.5 - Try with new Boba

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    16/31 4* Pilots

    Rey 7 - Copilot for TFA. Need a lot
    Han DD 3.5 - Pilot for TFA. Most important

    All others are 3 but go up based on event viability

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    Tickets (regular are barely more than SS)

    Diamond 2.2
    Platinum 0.22
    Five 0.15
    Triple 0.09
    Double 0.07
    Gold 0.05
    Silver 0.01

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    Skill Cards (basic or junk)

    sk40 - 2.5
    sk50 - 4.5

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    Various Services

    Awakenings

    5* Awakening - 2
    4* Awakening - 1


    Credits

    4/7 Han Carb - 0.1
    4/7 Shaak - 0.02


    Remote Service

    400 remotes - 3
     
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  2. ChrisTheHutt

    ChrisTheHutt Level 26

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    FAQ

    Q: Where are you getting this information/values?
    A: The open market of Line lists/auctions is really what this list is based off. Looking at Line rooms and see what cards are moving at. This list is pretty much based off that other than some cards moved slightly here and there to reflect performance and trends.

    Q: Is there opinion in this list?
    A: Yes. There is opinion in every list (published or personal), whether in methodology or bias. However, I will try to reflect this list off data/facts in the market. I will happily discuss any value that you think is off and I promise to answer your legitimate question.

    Q: Wow Chris, thanks so much for your list. I'm using it as my new Bible.
    A: You're welcome. Don't forget to use your own head and values!

    Q: Wow Chris, your list sucks just like you.
    A: Well I've heard worse in this thread! But use whatever other non-mentionable guides you want...or maybe even try using your own head!

    Q: Why do you have so many cards listed as 1 or 2 value?
    A: The simple fact is that top decks use the top 25 cards. They're not using these other random 100 cards. If you're not that level yet, use the cards in the lower tiers and work your way up. You can still have a good deck with lower level cards. We all did it.

    Q: My card is worth 9 and their card is worth 8. I'm not trading unless they add 1 topper.
    A: My personal theory is a card you need for your deck is better than a random card collecting dust in your binder. But yeah, go get that topper!

    Q: Can I sponsor one of your tiers and name it myself?
    A: Sure! Send me some compensation and you can name it whatever you want! Even you Donald Trump!

    Q: Can I post this in my Line room?
    A: Absolutely. I have a version that fits great in Line notes that I post in some rooms. If you message me on Line (or send me your Line ID), I can PM you the list.
     
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    Cloney McStudent Level 18

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    I get the ease factor, but that is terrible, people are throwing away value because people are lazy and stupid.
     
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    Don't complain. Capitalize!
     
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    Cloney McStudent Level 18

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    Unfortunately there is another 'stupid' factor at play, the fact that tickets are overvalued in general, which has a greater contribution than normal vs ss, so overall it is still better for me to treat SS as regular tickets and trade them away, as opposed to trading for SS tickets at normal value.
     
  7. ChrisTheHutt

    ChrisTheHutt Level 26

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    Updated 6/21

    Updates include:
    • actual values for new cards
    • some shifting of the top and mid tiers
    • top pilots updated including Bacara for newest Jugg pilot
    Please keep any posts to the discussion thread so this is easier to shift through. If I missed anything, let me know
     
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    ChrisTheHutt Level 26

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    Updated 6/29

    Updates include:
    • some shifting of top and mid tiers, including Cad SK and Hux CT actually moving up
    • gold tickets, credits and awakenings slightly changed in regards to their current scarcity or lackthereof
    Please keep any posts to the discussion thread so this is easier to shift through. If I missed anything, let me know
     
  9. ChrisTheHutt

    ChrisTheHutt Level 26

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    This will get updated in about 12ish hours once I can change all the different versions of this guide. Sorry for the delay but America had another birthday
     
  10. Dragonballź

    Dragonballź Level 16

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    Nice list one thing obi jm is lower than Yoda gm
     
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    Gm is no longer very good. Jm has uses for his skill as a cheap ahr counter.
     
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    Nobody is using Ghost Ben to help Rey SB. They might think they are, but since she's not a Jedi it won't work.
     
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    You can reach nine defeated units faster.
     
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  14. EllBringa

    EllBringa Level 44

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    Since the ghost goes to the back, it's not so much faster, but rather takes less slots to reach the desired # of dead units.
     
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  15. ChrisTheHutt

    ChrisTheHutt Level 26

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    Updated 7/8

    Updates include:
    • Changes all over from higher tiers like Rey SB to lower tiers like many cards in the 3-1 values
    • Credits very slightly dipping due to Konami handing them out more than Oprah giveaways
    Please keep any posts to the discussion thread so this is easier to shift through. If I missed anything, let me know
     
  16. Dragonballź

    Dragonballź Level 16

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    What u do is put whole row of rey sk in far back then your mids if u want use them and another row of stuff so the 8 die and u got full row of rey with max power
     
  17. Dragonballź

    Dragonballź Level 16

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    It's really simple if u think about it
     
  18. Egotrippin77

    Egotrippin77 Level 26

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    Not that simple
     
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  19. Dragonballź

    Dragonballź Level 16

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    U just got be dang rich that's only not simple part
     
  20. EllBringa

    EllBringa Level 44

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    Naw, still not that simple.

    Heard of @UNICRON?
    He runs a deck like that.

    Recently, a legionmate of mine successfully defended against him with Ahsoka and Nexu 3*s as part of his front line.
     

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