Auto B10 Giant with 1 Hwa

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  1. BigN1gga

    BigN1gga Level 26

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    First off, I have to note that this guide is not for beginners.
    Monsters used require very decent runes, and it is NOT easy to build this team.
    The win rate is around 90%-95% , so pls don't complain if you can't get it to 100%,
    if Hwa miss first 2 hits in a row, only RNGesus can save you.

    Strategy:
    To reliably beat B10 you need to meet 3 following requirements:

    1. Make it to the boss without dying (harder than it sounds when you must meet other requirements)
    here is a picture of my team ( most members can be substituted)
    team.jpg


    2. You must be able to debuff Giant's speed ASAP!
    It is very important because 1 Hwa is not able to control giant at normal speed even if she is hitting every single one.

    As you can see, I do not rely on Hwa to slow giants speed down.
    I use Fami (Exlusive monster :D) second skill 100% crit chance 100% slow chance, 3 turn CD
    And as 2nd back up, wind vampire second skill has 75% chance of slowing down giant.
    4 turn CD

    Don't worry if don't have Fami, Wind Pixie can do the job just fine
    However, Fami is DEFINATELY the cutest monster in game :rolleyes:

    3. All you monsters except for Hwa and Roaq must die before 3rd turn
    Therefore your Roaq's team up is guaranteed to activate Hwa's attack.
    Then you get into this situation

    Ideal situation.jpg

    Then you can safely set back and put your phone/tablet on Auto (when it is Roaq's turn)
    And watch the giant crumble before your might :D

    So this is my basic set up for Auto Giant B10 with 1 Hwa.

    I have went through countless frustrating failures :confused:
    And no less than 1 million mana on rune removals to perfect this team. :confused:
    I have Sacked the runes from my Tyron, Luer and Megan to build this team.:confused:
    Just to quantify things, the runes that i got and sold during the testing net to 1.5 million mana

    And now I really hope this guide can help many players in my shoes,
    because if I knew I have to go through all this to make an Auto team, I am not sure I would have done it. :confused:

    I would add some side note later on following this post to clarify a thing or 2.
     
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    BigN1gga Level 26

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    Monsters not to use:

    Fire monster ( including Fire sylph):
    Reason:
    Fire monsters will constantly land glancing hit on Giant, and glancing hits will not Crit!
    Therefore you cannot use Roaq's team up skill.

    Verdihile maybe ok since his first skill attack twice and has 100% crit.

    Fire sylph is useless because his skill doesn't work when you land a glancing hit. (believe me, I learned it the hard way).
    At 100% accuracy, Fire Sylph will empty attack guage 1/5 times maximum.

    Light Bearman:
    He sound like an excellent choice to get you monster to the boss in 1 piece and crit on giant on first turn.
    However, my Ahem's hp is too high, so he doesn't does on the first turn.
    (That white bear never cease to annoy me o_O)

    Fire Garuda is a possible option, but I find him a lot less reliable, because he mess up Roaq's skill.
     
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    BigN1gga Level 26

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    Crit rate:

    Roaq and Hwa must have 15% crit rate (no crit rate)

    All other monsters must all crit on 1st turn:
    Wind monster crit < 85%
    Water monster crit = 100%
    Both result in 100% crit chance.
     
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    BigN1gga Level 26

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    Monster Speed and Accuracy

    Tyron leader speed + 19%
    100% crit

    Hwa:
    205 speed
    100% accuracy
    No skill
    15% crit

    Roaq:
    191 speed
    second skill maxed out
    15% crit

    Fami:
    143 speed
    79% accuracy
    66% crit ( second skill boost crit by 50%)

    Wind Vampire:
    117 speed
    83% accuracy
    86% cirt
    This guys is awesome, he lets you win with style. :cool:

    Don't worry too much if you can't reach the above speed without cirt.
    It is a very slippery slope to climb.
    I think only top players like @bigjohn42255 have the runes for it.

    Good news is that the above team can also succeed even if I am not using a speed leader.
     
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    BigN1gga Level 26

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    Here is a few decent runes that I picked up when I was figuring things out:
    1.jpg
    2.jpg

    As you can see, Fami is the cutest monster in game!
     
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    bigjohn42255 Level 24

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    WHy wind vamp and light fami?
     
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    Should we also invest in the sky totem for more speed against the giant?

    Nice guide BTW
     
  8. BigN1gga

    BigN1gga Level 26

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    If you don't slow down giant's speed before his attack bar reach 75%, you are dead.
    Hwa can hit twice before that happens.
    She has only 50% chance of slowing giant down ( In reality it is much lower)
    so theoretically 25% of the times you are guaranteed to lose.


    Fami second skill slow down giant speed with 100% rate (85%)
    wind vampire second skill slow down giant speed with 75% rate

    Although those 2 skill require CD, but 90% of the times at least 1 of skills are ready
     
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    BigN1gga Level 26

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    Idk, speed dosen't seem like the main issue for me.
    The only time I fail is when Hwa miss her first 2 hit
    Which is 2.25% chance.
    If that happens, I just have to pay that Hwa's passive kicks in.

    Or
    Hwa speed debuff fails
    Fami speed debuff fails
    Vampire speed debuff fails
    Hwa speed debuff fails again.

    I will just RQ before I get hammered.
     
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    KAZUTO111 Level 23

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    Haha I had come to the exact same conclusions a little while ago.

    I'm using Tyron, Light Bearman, Wind Serpent, Hwa, Raoq.

    Serpent has a 100% speed debuff and is very tanky (at 3* LV.25 without Awakening it easily survives to the boss). When maxed out the third skill has a 2 turn cool down so it will be for sure ready to hit the giant. I need to add more crit rate to mine but it seems to work so far.

    With Bearman I just let him die on the second turn and it hasn't messed me up yet.
     
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    bigjohn42255 Level 24

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    I just rolled a wind vamp

    i have hwa
    shimate
    occ water fire
    wind oracle
    etc

    will any of this combo work for aauto b10?
     
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    BigN1gga Level 26

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    Hwa is compulsory of course.
    You need A Roaq,
    I level one up my self 3 days ago.
    His second skill need to be maxed out. speed need to be fast.

    Fire OG won't work, she may land too many glancing be she crit.

    Wind Oracle should be fine, if her crit is decent. Her leadership skill will be useful.

    Wind vampire is useful, but not compulsary.

    Strongly recommend you also level a wind pixie or wind Serpent as @KAZUTO111 suggested.



    Leader: wind Oracle
    Hwa
    Roaq
    Wind Vampire / Shimitae (crit >85%)
    Wind Pixie/ wind Serpent (crit >85%)
     
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    Kerafyrm Level 13

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    ok so i have the necessary hwa/roaq combo. but as for the other 3, do you guys think this will work?
    these 2 to get me there.
    fire vamp
    Lushen

    and this one to apply slow...and as an o shit button, her 3rd skill could buy me some time.
    Ran (dark Rak)

    aside from that, would a violent Raoq work or is swift better?
     
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    runes for the raoq is swift ene? or violent focus?
     
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    to slow down the giant, is wind sylph 3rd skill a viable replacement?
    Can i sub the hwa with dark elemental :D
     
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    amazing guide - wish I had the mana to switch things around but I don't atm :(
     
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    Method no longer viable.
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